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		<title>Comment on From Arche to Agape, with Bob Mumford by Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 12:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks there&#039;s lot of really helpful information here. I wish I was as good a listener here as everyone else; but these notes will definitely come in handy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks there&#8217;s lot of really helpful information here. I wish I was as good a listener here as everyone else; but these notes will definitely come in handy!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Knight Club: Mastering the Three Dragons of Manhood by Jake</title>
		<link>http://2transform.us/2012/03/03/knight-club-mastering-the-three-dragons-of-manhood-19-2/#comment-11687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 15:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice post which Figuring out the right way to frame anger-mastery is tricky, but vital.  Out-of-control anger from men is the most terrifying thing on earth, whether from toddlers or terrorists. Thanks a lot for posting this article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post which Figuring out the right way to frame anger-mastery is tricky, but vital.  Out-of-control anger from men is the most terrifying thing on earth, whether from toddlers or terrorists. Thanks a lot for posting this article.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What You Can Do to Help Those Behind Bars by Jon Andreas by cassidy k</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cassidy k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 19:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i went to school were Jonathan Andreas was my principal, mentor, pastor, teacher i trusted him. he molested a girl in my class. i trusted him, he taught me everything i knew about god at age 12 when this all came out and i thought how could god have a molester be teaching me the word of god. i turned my back on jesus at that time i went down a dark road i have no sympathy for him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i went to school were Jonathan Andreas was my principal, mentor, pastor, teacher i trusted him. he molested a girl in my class. i trusted him, he taught me everything i knew about god at age 12 when this all came out and i thought how could god have a molester be teaching me the word of god. i turned my back on jesus at that time i went down a dark road i have no sympathy for him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Knight Club: Levels of Love by Dr. Ernie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Ernie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great question. I don&#039;t know the whole answer, butI think there&#039;s a distinction between &quot;formal authority&quot; and &quot;legitimate authority.&quot;  We do owe a certain level of respect and obedience even to illegitimate formal authority (like a bad king).  But we owe devotion, loyalty, and unquestioned obedience to a legitimate authority who is truly looking out for our best interest.  How and where we draw that line is not clear to me, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question. I don&#8217;t know the whole answer, butI think there&#8217;s a distinction between &#8220;formal authority&#8221; and &#8220;legitimate authority.&#8221;  We do owe a certain level of respect and obedience even to illegitimate formal authority (like a bad king).  But we owe devotion, loyalty, and unquestioned obedience to a legitimate authority who is truly looking out for our best interest.  How and where we draw that line is not clear to me, though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Knight Club: Levels of Love by Rich</title>
		<link>http://2transform.us/2012/02/29/knight-club-levels-of-love/#comment-11481</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 04:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought authority was derived from God? I agree it should be enacted through love, but the presence/absence of love (at our level, obviously always present at God&#039;s level) does not preclude the requirement of obedience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought authority was derived from God? I agree it should be enacted through love, but the presence/absence of love (at our level, obviously always present at God&#8217;s level) does not preclude the requirement of obedience.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Knight Club: Where Fathers and Sons Learn to Win Life&#8217;s Most Important Battles by Dr. Ernie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Ernie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 01:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not surprisingly, someone has beaten me to it, at least for those over the age of six. Wonder how hard it would be to adapt...

http://lifeready.com/raisingamoderndayknight/


Beginning with a biblical perspective of manhood, Raising a Modern Day-Knight shares a unique approach to shaping a boy into a man. Applying the process by which a boy moved through the medieval stages of knight, Robert Lewis and Dennis Rainey identify parallel stages for today’s fathers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprisingly, someone has beaten me to it, at least for those over the age of six. Wonder how hard it would be to adapt&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://lifeready.com/raisingamoderndayknight/" rel="nofollow">http://lifeready.com/raisingamoderndayknight/</a></p>
<p>Beginning with a biblical perspective of manhood, Raising a Modern Day-Knight shares a unique approach to shaping a boy into a man. Applying the process by which a boy moved through the medieval stages of knight, Robert Lewis and Dennis Rainey identify parallel stages for today’s fathers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Knight Club: Where Fathers and Sons Learn to Win Life&#8217;s Most Important Battles by D.L. Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D.L. Chandler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings,

Thanks for sharing your blog with us on our Twitter page. If we can be of further assistance, don&#039;t hesitate to reach out. 

Best Wishes,

D.L. Chandler
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www.fatherhood.rog]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your blog with us on our Twitter page. If we can be of further assistance, don&#8217;t hesitate to reach out. </p>
<p>Best Wishes,</p>
<p>D.L. Chandler<br />
Web Editor<br />
<a href="http://www.fatherhood.rog" rel="nofollow">http://www.fatherhood.rog</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Knight Club: Where Fathers and Sons Learn to Win Life&#8217;s Most Important Battles by Jor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The motto of our home school is &quot;raising adults&quot;. We are preparing them for the rest of their lives. My rationale for training obedience is obedience is a skill of mind, emotion and will which will be useful for relating to legitimate authority figures including themselves. Yes, they learn to obey us, so that they can more effectively obey God... And police, teachers, employers, pastors, etc. the legitimacy of my authority like all legitimate authority comes from love: the care of the other. I love my children and will govern them to their good to the best of my ability. That is thwarted by rebellion which is why we don&#039;t tolerate it. As you hinted at, the limits of my authority end when it is more loving to let my children govern themselves. This starts in small things and progresses until they are mature adults and can govern themselves entirely, including submitting themselves to God.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The motto of our home school is &#8220;raising adults&#8221;. We are preparing them for the rest of their lives. My rationale for training obedience is obedience is a skill of mind, emotion and will which will be useful for relating to legitimate authority figures including themselves. Yes, they learn to obey us, so that they can more effectively obey God&#8230; And police, teachers, employers, pastors, etc. the legitimacy of my authority like all legitimate authority comes from love: the care of the other. I love my children and will govern them to their good to the best of my ability. That is thwarted by rebellion which is why we don&#8217;t tolerate it. As you hinted at, the limits of my authority end when it is more loving to let my children govern themselves. This starts in small things and progresses until they are mature adults and can govern themselves entirely, including submitting themselves to God.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Knight Club: Where Fathers and Sons Learn to Win Life&#8217;s Most Important Battles by Dr. Ernie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Ernie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;God doesn’t need to explain to us why we should respect and obey Him.&quot;

Yes, that&#039;s true.  Yet He does, most notably in the book of Job.  I&#039;m trying to figure out why.

You&#039;re absolutely right, we don&#039;t need to explain to our children why they should respect and submit to our authority, especially when they are young.

But I think we do need to explain it *to ourselves*, if only to understand how, why, and when that changes as they get older.

Do you have such an explanation? I don&#039;t, yet, though I feel like I&#039;m finally starting to make progress.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;God doesn’t need to explain to us why we should respect and obey Him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s true.  Yet He does, most notably in the book of Job.  I&#8217;m trying to figure out why.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right, we don&#8217;t need to explain to our children why they should respect and submit to our authority, especially when they are young.</p>
<p>But I think we do need to explain it *to ourselves*, if only to understand how, why, and when that changes as they get older.</p>
<p>Do you have such an explanation? I don&#8217;t, yet, though I feel like I&#8217;m finally starting to make progress.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Knight Club: Where Fathers and Sons Learn to Win Life&#8217;s Most Important Battles by Andrew Isaacs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Isaacs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You say in your post that you feel it&#039;s *arbitrary* for a father to demand respect and obedience from his son. Yet I believe God holds us accountable as fathers to do just that!

God doesn&#039;t need to explain to us why we should respect and obey Him. The nature of our relationship simply demands that we do. He is God and we are not. Should a father&#039;s relationship with his young children not be the same? I certainly don&#039;t feel compelled to give a strong rational argument to my young ones as to why they are required to respect and obey their parents. I feel it&#039;s enough to say, &quot;I am the dad, you are the child. Thus, you will respect me and obey me.&quot;

And I&#039;m convinced we need to not only disciple (teach them to obey God) and parent (teach them to obey me) our children, but also discipline (teach them the consequences of wrong behavior and attitudes) them.

Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates correction is stupid. (Proverbs 12:1) 

He will die for lack of discipline, led astray by his own great folly. (Proverbs 5:23) 

No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it. (Hebrews 12:11) 

He who heeds discipline shows the way to life, but whoever ignores correction leads others astray. (Proverbs 10:17) 

He who ignores discipline comes to poverty and shame, but whoever heeds correction is honored. (Proverbs 13:18) 

If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons. 
(Hebrews 12:8) 

We have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of our spirits and live! (Hebrews 12:9) 

Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines for our good, that we may share in his holiness. (Hebrews 12:10)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say in your post that you feel it&#8217;s *arbitrary* for a father to demand respect and obedience from his son. Yet I believe God holds us accountable as fathers to do just that!</p>
<p>God doesn&#8217;t need to explain to us why we should respect and obey Him. The nature of our relationship simply demands that we do. He is God and we are not. Should a father&#8217;s relationship with his young children not be the same? I certainly don&#8217;t feel compelled to give a strong rational argument to my young ones as to why they are required to respect and obey their parents. I feel it&#8217;s enough to say, &#8220;I am the dad, you are the child. Thus, you will respect me and obey me.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m convinced we need to not only disciple (teach them to obey God) and parent (teach them to obey me) our children, but also discipline (teach them the consequences of wrong behavior and attitudes) them.</p>
<p>Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates correction is stupid. (Proverbs 12:1) </p>
<p>He will die for lack of discipline, led astray by his own great folly. (Proverbs 5:23) </p>
<p>No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it. (Hebrews 12:11) </p>
<p>He who heeds discipline shows the way to life, but whoever ignores correction leads others astray. (Proverbs 10:17) </p>
<p>He who ignores discipline comes to poverty and shame, but whoever heeds correction is honored. (Proverbs 13:18) </p>
<p>If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons.<br />
(Hebrews 12:8) </p>
<p>We have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of our spirits and live! (Hebrews 12:9) </p>
<p>Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines for our good, that we may share in his holiness. (Hebrews 12:10)</p>
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